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onlyoneclydebest 11:25 Fri Oct 20
Is anyone still happy with our board?

Only interested in making money,4 million-net spend in 2 seasons,pretending to be buying players like Cavallho,seriously,I wonder what these two old cunts want?
They can’t take it with them

13 Brentford Rd 4:41 Fri Nov 10
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You make it sooo easy. Carry on.

Johnson 4:34 Fri Nov 10
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Ha ha. You ridiculous old Queen

13 Brentford Rd 4:33 Fri Nov 10
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Made what up? Do I have to justify every opinion and comment I make to you pair of cunts?
Like a playground on here, hilarious watching you trying to trip me up, I can sit here all day and make you look like the fools you are, I'm master at it.

Alex V 4:32 Fri Nov 10
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I think, after looking at Moyes' transfer record at Man Utd and Sunderland, the idea of leaving him entirely alone on transfers would be completely absurd. Especially as it's likely a short contract at first.

R.E - Chelmsford 4:24 Fri Nov 10
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I just posted this piece by Richard Keys on the manager thread.

Interesting 2nd from the last paragraph...


Interesting piece popped up on newsnow a little while ago, sorry if done

I know its by Richard the ape-man Keys, but nonetheless, intriguing..






Getting Hammered

on Wednesday, 08 November 2017. Posted in Richard Keys Blog





If the faithful at West Ham don’t get behind David Moyes their team is sunk. Why is Moyes getting hammered in the manner that he is?

He’s a good man. He’s an honest man, so that makes him something of a rarity in football, and he’s a smart man. He’s also a man that’s been badly abused and more than a little bit used since leaving Everton, where he’d done an outstanding job on buttons.

He made mistakes at United. He’s said so himself. To many of us, it was quite obvious early that his appointment there wasn’t going to work out - not because he couldn’t do the job, but because he wasn’t getting the backing he NEEDED to do the job. When the end came it was a relief for everybody.

I think he was badly advised over taking a job in Spain and the decision to follow Sam at Sunderland was plain madness - especially when he had so many other offers. Paulo DI Canio and his cronies messed that club up big time. Sunderland are still paying off debt racked up at that time. I heard last season that they were paying for 27 players no longer at the club! What chance have you got in those circumstances? There simply was NO money to make the team better.

Now Moyes has rolled the dice again and decided he can restore his battered reputation at West Ham. Everyone connected with that club had better hope that he does.

I have no doubts that he can, but come January The Hammers need to spend - and let Moyes do the spending. Everyone previously connected with transfers needs to step away. Everyone.

The owners at West Ham had also better start being more realistic about their ambitions. Who on earth convinced them that moving to an athletics stadium would be the key to CL football? Oh, and on the back of a spend around £40m or so in each season since.

Look. West Ham is a fine football club. Bobby Moore was my first footballing hero. I loved the guy. Geoff Hurst won England the World Cup! Billy Bonds was a warrior and a leader any team would’ve wanted. There was Devonshire, Lampard, Brooking and the brilliant Cottee and McAvennie, who fired John Lyall’s team to the club’s best ever finish. Lyall, of course, also won the FA Cup twice. There was also that Cup Winners’ Cup success in ‘65.

These were the days of ‘The Academy’, when West Ham did things the ‘West Ham’ way - days that have long since past. Long since past.

Big Sam would often refer to ‘winning’ football when he was at Upton Park. Quite right too.

As I grew up the Hammers seemed to spend more time in the old second division than they did the top league. Brooking was in charge when they slipped back again. Sam took over when it happened again, after a close squeak under Alan Curbishley. And we all know what happened when Sheffield United cried ‘foul’ that season.

Yes, West Ham are a fine club, rich in tradition, but stuck in a time warp. CL football is not achievable on a £40m/year spend. And look closely at what they buy - ageing mercenaries, on average at £12m each, whose contracts are never renewed. That kind of policy will work for a while but eventually it’ll bite you.

There is nothing more certain in the East End right than the club’s current owners are wanting to sell up, for huge profit, and get out of town. I don’t blame them. The UK is a capitalist society and profit shouldn’t be a dirty word. How you achieve that aim can be though.

If West Ham’s loyal fans want to vent their anger - do it at the Boardroom, not David Moyes. If you don’t rally behind your new manager, I repeat, you’re sunk. These are critical times for West Ham. Get behind the manager, get yourselves safe, get hammered in celebration and you’ll know who to blame if it doesn’t work out. It won’t be David Moyes.

goose 4:18 Fri Nov 10
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good to see more and more stories in the press laying the blame with the owners.

One McAvennieeeeee 3:58 Fri Nov 10
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Sorry Rd, you just seem so sure about it I thought you'd know. Did you think the players were unfit mid way through the 2013/14 season, for example?

Johnson 3:56 Fri Nov 10
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So you made it up then?

13 Brentford Rd 3:53 Fri Nov 10
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Here we go........
Er no OM, there are no exact terms.

Johnson 3:45 Fri Nov 10
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You wouldn’t have a problem with the board using a mouthpiece to undermine and slag off the manager, Alex?

Strange.

One McAvennieeeeee 3:43 Fri Nov 10
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"I have thought this for 2 years and it's based on everything I already wrote that you ignored Johnson.
Grow up FFS. "

Were the players fit the 2 years before that, Rd son? Can I have the exact terms please so I can EVALUATE your findings?

theaxeman 3:42 Fri Nov 10
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Leroy

It is and we all knew it but good to see meat on the bones

LeroysBoots 3:37 Fri Nov 10
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axeman, that's a fairly damning expose of Sullivan and Brady

C&P

Gianfranco Zola was manager of West Ham United when new owners arrived early in 2010. He knew the score. They would probably want their own man in charge and he prepared for the inevitable with no hard feelings.
That equanimity burst like a West Ham bubble after a summons to meet Karren Brady, the vice-chairman. Zola was reputedly so shocked by such a blunt audience that “take them for every penny” was the gist of
It will be tough enough fixing the team for Moyes let alone dealing with Gold, left, Brady and SullivanTony O'Brien/Action Images
This is what it can be like to be a manager of West Ham even before they sack you; endlessly fighting your corner with the hierarchy, as if you do not have enough battles with your rivals.
David Sullivan, the co-chairman, has said that it was a relief to sack Slaven Bilic. A relief for whom? The Croat had become sloppy, with defensive organisation and discipline on the slide, but not so long ago he also led the club to seventh, their best top-flight performance since 2002. He departed not a bad manager but a man worn down.
As David Moyes takes over a side languishing in the relegation zone, the reaction is of scepticism about a Scot with a run of recent failures. Everyone wants to know if, at 54, he can relight fires doused in that brutally short spell at Manchester United. Six months to save West Ham and his own reputation.
Moyes’s whole career seems on trial, but what about the owners who kept Bilic dangling as his contract expired like a slow puncture, publicly disagreeing with him over key transfers and expecting a team to function when, according to frequent leaks, he has been two games from the sack for months? This is a regime with very strange ideas about how to treat people, even the most senior member of staff.
Sam Allardyce was talking about West Ham when he once said: “A manager today is fast becoming something owners don’t want. They [owners] are in charge of the football club and want to see it flourish and the days of the manager being the almighty, dominant power like they used to be are long, long gone and you must build a relationship and understand.”
At the London Stadium, that means constantly trying to navigate the whims of Sullivan and David Gold, as well as the frequent harsh critiques from Brady. I bumped into a staff member recently who, within minutes, was rolling his eyes and recounting the latest startling tale of a management style that would not win friends, never mind The Apprentice. When a regime has to heal an alienation with the widow of Bobby Moore, its greatest icon, after falling out over something as deserving as the cancer charity that bears his name, then it can fall out with anyone.
You sympathise with able, decent people across the club, not least in the community department, working often in testing circumstances. In Moyes, they are joined by one of the straightest men in football.
I do not know if he can recapture the single-mindedness that made him so successful at Preston North End and Everton, although it would be a warming tale of a good man’s redemption. But it will not be easy doing it at West Ham.
“David Sullivan, he likes to talk,” as Bilic noted when they were arguing over a transfer policy in which the chairman loves to play a very active role while being less eager to take the blame if it goes wrong.
Sullivan’s version of summer business made Bilic look bad with fans which, along with an imbalanced squad, he needed like another Andy Carroll injury. It was probably only a reluctance to pay off Bilic that saw him last as long as he did, especially after admitting that he chuckled at a description of Gold and Sullivan as “the dildo brothers”.
Allardyce managed to last four years, and there were good times with promotion, but then he has a thicker skin than most. He got on with it, to the point when he, too, had enough. He can tell Moyes about the interference, like the ousting of Lee Richardson, his sports psychologist. The owners wanted to know what mental issues the players had; Allardyce had to explain that it was confidential. Brady decided that Richardson’s work was not value for money and pushed him out.
Fans and owners wore Allardyce down in the end, lecturing him about the “West Ham way”. “I did everything they asked for and they wanted more, and I found that extremely ungrateful in terms of what I’d done for them,” he said, happy to walk.
Now it falls to Moyes, who must galvanise a group of miserable players and disgruntled fans whose fretfulness has been amplified by a new stadium that still feels a long way from home even if it is just three miles from Upton Park. At a club that trumpeted bold ambitions, not a relegation fight, when it sold more than 50,000 season tickets, he must try to drown out the trepidation, the fear. You can see it in scared players. No manager has a chance when players do not want the ball.
We wait to see what Moyes can offer as the solution but, at the very least, you would back him to improve defensive organisation. They should clamber free of the bottom three. But we should not be blind to the mess that he is inheriting, or the wider dysfunction. And as if fixing the team is not hard enough, Moyes must do that while, somehow, trying to manage upwards.

13 Brentford Rd 3:16 Fri Nov 10
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Just because I believe that the training was substandard and the players lack fitness and organisation doe's not mean I am against Billic and pro the board, or that I believe any Moyes "spin".
I have thought this for 2 years and it's based on everything I already wrote that you ignored Johnson.
Grow up FFS.

Alex V 2:56 Fri Nov 10
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Johnson 2:48 Fri Nov 10

I totally agree. All of those bloggers seem too close to the club - that's definitely an issue. I'm biased of course, but when I did West Ham news here it was fiercely independent (and not based on itk info) and the club made it clear they hated me. I just don't think there's much of an equivalent of that anymore. Especially now the fanzines have less of an influence.

There's the thing that apparently they reconsidered hiring Moyes because of the reaction on twitter to Ex's suggestion of him. That to me is not how you make good decisions.

But at the same time I just don't agree that it's all controlled by the Sullivans. I just don't give them that much credit. I think that would be a very difficult and actually nigh impossible thing to do. But let's say they did and that ex was basically a mouthpiece for their messages and views - what would it really matter?

theaxeman 2:50 Fri Nov 10
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://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/good-luck-working-for-the-west-ham-united-hierarchy-rpdgrfdkf?shareToken=9c36fa539b732c242efb2759599e9613

Johnson 2:48 Fri Nov 10
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He’s admitted to them having access to his WestHamWay twitter account which coincidentally posted anti-Bilic sentiment tagged as coming from Marbella whilst the Sullivan family were on holiday IN MARBELLA.

He won’t name who sent the tweets, I’m sure it’s all coincidence though Alex.

Alex V 2:43 Fri Nov 10
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>>> they speak through their various ITK contacts, they don't need to directly put their name to tweets

Maybe. And that is something those ITKs could acknowledge. But actually they don't. Ex outright denies that the Sullivans are a primary source. I think it's close to a conspiracy theory, that the Sullivans are somehow controlling the chaotic narrative that comes out of the club with a nefarious iron grip. They don't imo.

But personally I have absolutely no problem with getting more info from the club. I like to know what they're considering, it would be great to know more about their thought processes. I don't think it has made any difference to anything. I think it's something some fans like to get very angry about, but it actually doesn't affect whether the club succeeds or fails at all.

Takashi Miike 2:37 Fri Nov 10
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"also the Sullivans already stepped back from talking as much - they were pretty much silent all Summer and it made no difference to the anger among certain fans."


they speak through their various ITK contacts, they don't need to directly put their name to tweets

Alex V 2:26 Fri Nov 10
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Willtell 1:16 Fri Nov 10

I find those points broadly irrelevant. 1, 2 and 3 (and arguably 6) are about PR basically, ie they don't actually improve the performance of the club. But also the Sullivans already stepped back from talking as much - they were pretty much silent all Summer and it made no difference to the anger among certain fans.

There's an inherent problem with itks who say the owners should communicate less with fans. I see how that suits the itks perfectly.

On 4, the problem I have is that having high ambition is a good thing. I want the club to aim for the top. I'm not ever going to criticise the club for doing that, because I think it would be counter-productive.

On 5, I think they largely do let the manager do the talking. But managers are not an island - clubs are a structure of people working together to succeed. There is no workable modern structure where there isn't a relationship between the parts of the structure. Arguably the only example of that sort of autonomy these days is Wenger, who gets criticised left right and centre. Levy at Spurs is clearly very hands on with transfers. At most clubs on the continent the coach has very little say at all in who gets bought and how the club is structured. I would argue we need more interference from a group of people and not just the manager - so key decisions can be accountable and properly examined.

Johnson 2:11 Fri Nov 10
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Same as being a bit down isn’t it?

Anyway, he said it once so please explain how you translate that into believing the smears coming from the disgusting lying cunts in charge and the spin (which the lapdogs - you’re one of them - are obviously lapping up) about Moyes’ training?

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